(It's still the same doctor. I did, and do, ever so much more now, want to change, but I was waiting to have a "reason," i.e. a pregnancy, to begin afresh with a new one, and since this one had my background information from the miscarriage and since my endocrinologist had brought her into the loop – or rather, had attempted to bring her into the loop; it takes actually reading one's correspondence for that to happen – I decided to bring up my concerns with her for the time being.)
This is what I heard:
"Hypothyroidism is not that rare. Lots of women have it and still have babies."
"The endocrinologist didn't say anything about thyroid antibodies. [Continues skimming my copy of the letter, which I had handed over in response to her blank stare about being copied on it.] ... Oh. He did."
"You shouldn't worry about miscarriage until after having had three. Up to that point, it's probably just normal. Difficult but normal. Happens all the time."
"You got pregnant before, which indicates you don't have a problem."
"Stop focusing too much on temperatures and monitoring. Have relations twice a week, every week, and that should do it."
"Just relax. Enjoy life. You're putting too much pressure on yourself, and that's not good for making a baby."
And then as if it wasn't enough that I was about to walk out of there feeling belittled and stupid and over-reactive, and furious at her for making me feel that way and furious at myself for letting her, she threw out this little gem:
"While doing your ultrasounds" – you know, the ones from four months ago showing ... nothing, or so I thought – "I noticed lots of cysts on your ovaries. Like this [scribbling a bunch of little circles inside a big circle]."
Oh. Wow. Right. Good to know. Eventually.
"But don't read too much about that on the Internet. You'll unnecessarily scare yourself. Lots of women have them and still have babies."
I can tell she doesn't want to see me again. The feeling is rather mutual. So I will take her up on her not-so-subtle suggestion to have the testing done elsewhere, which would be at a fertility clinic, as much as that makes me feel even more like I'm over-reacting. I want to be a well-informed advocate for myself. I also don't want to be what's on the flip side of that, which is a whiny hypochondriac, and which is how she makes me feel.
Here's hoping she's right, I guess.
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What? Whaaaaat? What the...? Excuse me, but that is not ok. I don't even know where to start. Get someone else, sack her and don't go back. You do not need that kind of rubbish. Will the testing include looking closer at the cysts? Hun, I am so sorry you had to deal with that, I would have been in bits by the end.
ReplyDeleteFrom my experience, OB/GYNs don't seem to know much about trying to get pregnant. Mine wouldn't even talk to me once she had seen our SA and knew my husband's past history with cancer. She was more than happy to tell me that I needed to see a RE.
ReplyDeleteI hate that you had to go through the appointment and got nothing in return. =/
That woman is awful. I'm so sorry you were subjected to such an awful example of a doctor. And to think I thought the US had a market on awful doctors. You AND EmHart had awful doctor experiences. Also, I'm sorry about those cysts. I hope they are nothing.
ReplyDeleteWow...what a horrible doctor. Hope the next one is much, much better...not hard to do, right? I was also told I had "cystic ovaries" by my last gyno, my new doctor took a better look and it was nothing. And who the hell tells someone that they have this "issue" and tell them to not look it up on the internet?! Crazy!
ReplyDeleteEven if the tests don't confirm everything, that does *not* mean that you're whiny or a hypochondriac. All we can do it ask questions - and try to ask the right questions. This journey is hard, and she was wrong to make you feel that way. I'm glad you'll be seeing someone different soon, and I hope they are able to give you some answers. Good luck!
ReplyDeleteSounds like PCOS. You're right, it's time to move on to a different doctor.
ReplyDeleteNot acceptable at all! And this just blows my mind, how can miscarriages be normal and why do you have to have three of them before getting help. it just doesn't make sense in my mind.
ReplyDeleteI think it's GOOD that you read up on this on the Internet so you get the knowledge from different sources. Then again, it depends where you read stuff of course. But you clearly know more then that doctor you saw. Ugh, not very helpful and compassionate.
How can you even hope to be an advocate for yourself when your health professional is withholding information from you!? "Oh by the way I failed to mention that you have poly-cystic ovaries, no biggie" Are you f-ing kidding me. She seriously doesn't get it. It always bothers me that much more when it is women (put to the task of helping other women) who don't take this stuff seriously. I am so sorry honey. Get outta there!
ReplyDeleteOh, wow! That is aweful! I'm so sorry. It's def time to move on.
ReplyDeleteI actually think that you are way better off at an infertility clinic than you are with your OB/GYN. I know the thought of going there is scary but their job is it to get you pregnant and not to give you the "just relax and it will happen" talk. I'm sure they will take much better care of you. Good luck, girl!
You have got to be kidding me. I'd be wondering if I was being pranked after a consult like that. Your ultrasound shows a lot of cysts on your ovaries but she doesn't want to do anything about them? WTF?
ReplyDeleteI had a somewhat similar experience with my ob/gyn. I'm 38, went through four medicated IUIs and a few failed natural cycles. I also have PCOS. I asked her if I could get a referral to an RE, given my age and diagnosis. "No, you still have regular periods. You're fine." This was coming from the woman who diagnosed my PCOS. Seriously. So I went to a different doctor to get my referral.
I hope you find a better doctor. (I actually think it would be difficult to find worse!) Good luck!
This is what infuriates me with disorders that cause infertility! I am so sorry you had to go through that. I went through a very similar situation before I finally found the doctor I have now, but it really sucked to be talked down to and belittled because I basically knew more than the stupid OB/Gyn! I hope you find a new doctor soon and one that will really sit and listen to you. EVERYBODY deserves proper health care and the right to be heard. Hugs to you xx
ReplyDeleteWhat an awful way to be treated, you poor thing. I want to slap her for you! especially sayin you shouldn't worry about miscarriage until 3, honestly doctors should know better. hope you find a better one :-)
ReplyDeleteWhat a horrible doctor. She should not be withholding important information from you and scoffing at your concerns. Argh, I'm so mad for you!
ReplyDeleteOh my, like I really don't even know what to say! You deserve someone who is going to listen to you and not sweep things under the rug!!
ReplyDeleteWhat a terrible doctor and a terrible experience. Lya is right - you're not going to hear those awful bits of advice at a fertility clinic. You're going to be much better off.
ReplyDeleteAh Elizabeth what an absolutely disappointing visit. It's so hard when you come to the table so very prepared and the doctor is only interested in shutting you down or minimizing the issue. Seems that far too many health care practitioners along the infertility pathway think that this is an acceptable way to speak to patients. I've certainly encountered it in my travels. I also hate that 'three m/c' business. It's such a callous statement to make. Ugh my heart hurts for you. I hope you find another doctor quickly and the next one will be a keeper.
ReplyDeleteUh, yeah, time for a new doctor. That's ridiculous. Did she really rattle off all those stupid and insensitive things? Has she not heard of tact or etiquette or common effing courtesy? It's so easy for doctors to make us feel like we're overreacting, but it's really sad when she's the one who is obviously ill-informed and ignorant. This makes me so angry for you!
ReplyDeleteBut you, my dear, are doing great. Keep yourself informed and keep on advocating for your own health and fertility!
WOW!!! WOW!! and WOW!! it seems like a trend that doctors minimize patients concerns... You're right, it is time to switch doctors... In terms of information, if she does her job, your next doctor will get all your history so that won't be a problem... Even if you go both to a Gyno and RE they will both keep contact and know the whole history (at least that was my experience). I am really happy you decided to get tested... You are not overreacting, it is way better to know everything is alright than not... And in case it isn't you have plenty of time to fix whatever is not. (In my case, I had a polyp that had to be removed and took almost a year to do so... getting a date was crazy, lost around 4 months!!)
ReplyDeleteAs said, if everything is alright, you lost nothing, on the contrary, you gained peace of mind to keep doing what you've been doing so far... In my case, every month that passed without me getting pregnant was a confirmation that something was wrong (which was indeed the case)...
Sorry for the long post... Just to conclude, you can move on from your gyno thinking you gave her the best of chances! You are a strong self-advocate and you are moving in the right direction!
Thank you all so much for your wonderful support and encouragement, as well as for sharing your own experiences. You give me the courage to keep going until I am satisfied that I am getting the answers I need. Even if at the end the answer is the one this doctor gave me without even listening to what I had to say or doing so much as asking about my gynecological history - "everything's okay; no need to worry" (which of course would be the best possible outcome) - that won't make the quest to know that for certain any less worthwhile, given that there are valid reasons I'm asking these questions.
ReplyDeleteA few things are clear: I'm finished with that gynecologist, I'm moving on to the RE (later this afternoon, in fact!), and I am truly, truly grateful for and appreciative of all of you!